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« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2013, 02:54:55 AM »
This is going to sound complicated and unnecessary.  Only the latter is probably true  :)

When editing out multiple fragments, I find the easiest work flow to be to first move through the video and "Add a Marker" at the start and end of all the fragments I plan to keep, using the mouse to navigate the video and the keyboard "M" shortcut to add the markers.

Once finished I end up with this:


Then I go back and, using the mouse, select each fragment I plan to keep, and "Keep" them using the keyboard "S" shortcut, which results in this:


Logically, I'm always going to end up with this sort of striping, with alternating "Keep" and "Delete" fragments.  I mean, it makes sense that, at least at first, there won't be two consecutive "Keep" or "Delete" fragments.  Why create two fragments if you're going to treat them the same?

So, to me, it would just be logical if I could just choose the first "Keep" fragment (in this case it's the second fragment.  In other cases it might be the first), like this:


and then have the software automatically "Keep" the alternating fragments after that.  Especially when the video is long and there is little or no visible separation between fragments, at which point I have to Zoom in the timeline.

Since I'm apparently the only one who works this way, such a feature seems unlikely.

I might be persuaded to change my process if the default behavior was different when choosing "Keep" when the Timeline Slider is positioned directly on top of a Fragment Marker. 

As I'm moving through a video, once I "Add a Marker" that marks the end of a fragment I plan to keep, if I hit "S" or click the Thumbs Up icon, the software marks the next fragment for Keep, not the one I just created.  In other words, it always treats the marker I just added as the start of a keep fragment.  So to mark a fragment for Keep as soon as I have created it, I first have to move backward into the fragment I just created, then click "Keep", then move forward again.  It really ruins the flow. 

This is easiest to understand if you just try it.  Load a video and click "Thumb Down".  Move forward in the Timeline, hit "M", move forward some more, hit "M".  Now you've marked a fragment you want to Keep, but the Timeline Slider is still exactly on top of your end Marker.  Hit "S" or Thumbs Up.  The fragment following the one you just created gets "Kept", not the one you just created.

It's the same problem if you leave the entire video selected for keep, then mark out an area you want to delete.  Hitting "D" will delete the wrong fragment.

It's minor, but completely changes the way I use the software.

Anyway, that's my complex explanation for simple problems.  Thanks again for listening :)

-G

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« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2013, 07:07:16 PM »
Hi Glen,
Thank you for details. So mostly you deal with editing out segments.
Actualy i didn't catch the idea with keeping segments, could you clear up that in more details?
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Dmitry Vergeles
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« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2013, 06:23:22 AM »
Hi Dmitry, thanks for the reply.

It's all just personal use, some sports, Youtube stuff, some, umm, adult, lol.  Pretty much every format.

I usually end up with a project with multiple segments with every other segment selected to keep.  eg. segments 2,4,6,8 are selected to keep, 1,3,5,7 are skipped.
Sometimes I wish there was a way I could select the initial "keep" segment, and then press a button to have the app "keep" every other segment after that.  But that's mostly just laziness on my part :)

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« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2013, 07:13:51 PM »
Hi Glen,

Thank you very much for your  requests to be explained in detail. We appreciate that.
Actually the only reason why that is missed is that you the first person who asks that :)

But really, that sounds quite reasonable.  We’ll show both duration of a selected fragment and an entire duration of fragments.
I've added that to our to-do list; let's see how fast our developers add that to the Splitter.

If you have any other notices please feel free to let us know them.

BTW, could you please describe us your needs in Splitter? What kind of media do you edit, what's a purpose? What media formats you deal with? How do you get such files (download or capture or whatever)?

Thanks in advance.
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Dmitry Vergeles
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« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2013, 06:25:40 PM »
Ok, thanks, that doesn't seem particularly useful, especially if you have a lot of segments.

Is there any reason you can't show the length of each segment right on the segment, or in the Output Area?  You already show the Start and End times of the selected segment in Output, it seems like it would be pretty easy to show the duration as well.

Also, is there any reason not to show the total length of all "Kept" segments in the Output Area?  I don't edit for size, but for duration, and the only easy way to get the final output duration is to actually perform the Trim.  Which can result in a pretty slow iterative process.  You'd think at least using "Calculate Destination File Size" could at the same time throw in Duration.

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« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2013, 05:55:11 PM »
Hello Glenn1963,

Thank you for your question.

You can calculate output time for selected fragment at present time.

Select fragment and go to Tools -> Time calculator. It will show the duration for selected fragment.

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Olga Krovyakova
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« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2013, 10:38:31 AM »
Am I missing something obvious, is there a way to see or calculate what the final output time of a split video will be?  I see Calculate File Size but not time?

Thanks!

-Glenn