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« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2016, 08:07:09 PM »
Hello citlee,

Thank you for your question.

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I took this to mean that I can select with frame accuracy and export fragments out of a video, and that SolveigMM will re-encode the parts between the first frame and the next keyframe at the beginning and end of the fragment.
Yes, you are right. Why are you asking this?

According to the bug you have reported, I would no recommend you to use such corrupted files anywhere until the new updated working version will be ready.

Thanks.
« Last Edit: May 19, 2016, 05:27:34 PM by Olga Krovyakova »
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« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2016, 10:11:30 PM »
From the product page:

"For all media files smart editing, frame-accurate appoach is used. SolveigMM advanced know-how technology keeps 99% of data and only transcodes a few frames at the beginning and end of the video segments, so files are processed fast and lossless."

I took this to mean that I can select with frame accuracy and export fragments out of a video, and that SolveigMM will re-encode the parts between the first frame and the next keyframe at the beginning and end of the fragment. Is this not the case? Am I doing it wrong?

My workflow is this:

Open file in SolveigMM
Find relevant parts, add markers to select portions
Right click within fragment and Save Selected Fragment As

Or ideally:

Open file in SolveigMM
Find all parts I want to create clips from, add markers to select all fragments to be saved
Mark all other sections of the video as to be deleted
Save All Fragments As

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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2016, 09:55:19 PM »
Hello citlee,

Thank you for your reply.

If you need the key frame to be first frame of the resulted file you need to edit file with key frame (GOP) accuracy. By defult there is the Smart editing (Frame mode) enabled, that means that the video will be started with exactly that frame that was selected as the fragment's beginning. In key frame mode the fragment will be started with the nearest key frame.

You can find more about difference between key frame and frame accurate editing here:

http://www.solveigmm.com/en/faq/video-splitter-inaccurate-splitting/

So to use key frame accurate mode, you need to disable smart editing in Tools -> Frame accuracy (Smart mode).

I wouldn't also recommend you to use corrupted files or files produced with corrupted files. Please wait for the fix first to be sure that you get the valid result.

Thank you.
« Last Edit: May 17, 2016, 09:58:58 PM by Olga Krovyakova »
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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2016, 09:09:40 PM »
While I'm at it, it appears that the files generated by exporting the fragments between markers are invalid - in that Windows doesn't generate a thumbnail, and trying to import them as media into Vegas 13 causes it to crash. By opening a saved fragment in VLC and going right to the beginning, it appears that it is not a key frame (in this example, the first 8 frames) - so I'm guessing that the "smart editing" isn't being done either. Here's a link to an example fragment: https://www.dropbox.com/s/w0akuv8usgmrobq/solveig-fragment-corrupt.mp4?dl=1

Am I missing something? Do I need to explicitly turn on "smart editing" somewhere? "Smart Mode Settings" "Default trimming accuracy" is set to "Frame".


Hello citlee,

Thank you for your post and your feedback.

I've investigated this problem and came to conclusion that this issue happens only with large MPEG-TS of file size approximately 15 Gbs or larger.

We will try to fix this issue in the near future.

As soon as the updated version will be ready, I will post at this thread.

Thanks for your patience.

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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2016, 08:21:59 PM »
Hello citlee,

Thank you for your post and your feedback.

I've investigated this problem and came to conclusion that this issue happens only with large MPEG-TS of file size approximately 15 Gbs or larger.

We will try to fix this issue in the near future.

As soon as the updated version will be ready, I will post at this thread.

Thanks for your patience.
« Last Edit: May 17, 2016, 08:23:33 PM by Olga Krovyakova »
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« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2016, 11:08:47 PM »
I am trying to cut a video into fragments for use in another app, hence being interested in the "smart rendering" feature where only the part between K frames is rerendered. Unfortunately I can only do between 0 and 5 of these for each time I launch the program - the issue described here: http://www.solveigmm.com/forum/index.php?topic=4979.0 is basically what I am seeing - that dialog appears and the progress bar never increases. Sometimes the Cancel button works, sometimes not and I have to End Task. This is not a new problem (I bought Solveig MM Video Splitter Home Edition in November 2015) and is persisting between versions. If I can successfully Cancel a failed fragment save, then the same thing happens again when I try to save it again. I have to close the program and reopen it in order to save the fragment. After doing that, I can usually save 1-2 fragments, but sometimes it's 0, sometimes it might be up to 5, before the same issue reappears.

It is, to put it nicely, utterly infuriating.

If I try to Save All Fragments As (which I would much rather do) instead of individual Save Selected Fragment As, the first 0-4 are usually OK, but then a couple of "junk" files get created (not valid video, size varies, often 356 or 752 bytes, maybe a couple of kb), and it eventually reverts to the stuck dialog behaviour above.

System & file details:
Machine: i7-6700K, 16GB RAM, Windows 10 Home 64bit
Currently, SolveigMM Video Splitter Home Edition v5.2.1603.25 (but has happened with every version since I bought it)
SolveigMM says the Input file video format is MPEG4 AVC and Audio is AAC, here's the lightly edited MediaInfo output:
General
ID                                       : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : MPEG-TS
File size                                : 15.7 GiB
Duration                                 : 10h 4mn
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 3 715 Kbps

Video
ID                                       : 257 (0x101)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : Main@L4
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames                : 4 frames
Codec ID                                 : 27
Duration                                 : 10h 4mn
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 60.000 fps
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : sYCC
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709

Audio
ID                                       : 256 (0x100)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : AAC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec
Format version                           : Version 4
Format profile                           : LC
Muxing mode                              : ADTS
Codec ID                                 : 15
Duration                                 : 10h 4mn
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel positions                        : Front: L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz
Frame rate                               : 46.875 fps (1024 spf)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Delay relative to video                  : -28ms

As you can see from above, it's quite large so posting the video is pretty much out of the question.

I am cutting up video from Twitch (twitch.tv), which is where all the files I work with are from. The same issue has happened on every single one I've used.

Is there a debug console I can run to find out what it's dying on? It seems like some internal process fails and never tells the front end there's an error. Anything else I can do?